Jesus fucking Christ, there are some things wrong with you people. In your heads. There are things wrong.
Watch this:
About this:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/07/in-your-face/
and this:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2012/07/in-your-face/#comment-223155
Really? It’s come to THIS? You people ARE as socially fucking inept and incompetent as you made yourselves out to be with the ‘policy’ drama. And I say ‘you’, because fucked if I’m ever going to include myself in anything this miserably stupid.
The flaming idiocy is too much for me.
the vlogger appears to be putting some words into Amy’s mouth there – she never described the words on the shirt as either violent or misogynistic. Amy told Harriet that the direct dig against “skepchick” was hurtful, and described it as one act of many which contributed to the larger feeling of an us-against-them atmosphere, and that this generally hostile atmosphere meant that she couldn’t enjoy herself there any more because of the stress, so she left.
Hyperbole is a very effective polemical technique, but strawmanning is still a fallacious exercise of it.
I’ve read the post and the comments on the post. I did that before posting this. My opinion is still: seriously?!
Leaving an event where a large number of people are going out of their way to make one feel unwelcome seems like a perfectly rational response to me.
@tigtog
“Leaving an event where a large number of people are going out of their way to make one feel unwelcome seems like a perfectly rational response to me.”
Yes, but *going* to an event where presumably you won’t be “safe or welcome” isn’t.
Nor is expecting people to applaud your organization for shitting on them for an entire year prior to said event a “rational response.”
John, cite or it didn’t happen. Where is *one single post* where the Skepchicks ever “shitted on” TAM or JREF? DJ Grothe has never presented any evidence whatsoever supporting his accusations against Rebecca Watson and other feminist bloggers. Grothe just *asserted* that their blogging against sexual harassment generally was the problem, even though the whole time they were talking TAM *up* as one of the conventions that was already taking measures and improving.
Amy was an *official sponsor* of TAM2012 (the name of her business is right there in the program). She raised money to send people there who otherwise couldn’t afford to go. She had attended TAM many times before.
Why shouldn’t she have expected that people might recognise this instead of falling for all the bullshit in the most unskeptical way possible?